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To:arch-general@archlinux.org From:Leonid Isaev Subject:Re: [arch-general] An empty /etc/crontab file maybe needed bo be add in to package filesystem. Date:Sun, 18 Mar 2012 11:43:36 -0500
 

On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 22:46:39 +0800
郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) <techlivezheng@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2012/3/18 Auguste Pop <auguste@gmail.com>:
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Auguste Pop <auguste@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:00 AM, Leonid Isaev <lisaev@umail.iu.edu> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:01:52 +0800
> >>> 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) <techlivezheng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 2012/2/19 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) <techlivezheng@gmail.com>:
> >>>> > I see, I just upgraded to 1.4.8 on 14 Feb 2012, The log must be
> >>>> > generated by an former version of cronie. Now it seems all gone, and I
> >>>> > can't provid the spamed log because I have cleaned them up 2 days ago.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Let's see, if there are spams again, I will post here.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 2012/2/19 Leonid Isaev <lisaev@umail.iu.edu>:
> >>>> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:26:46 +0800
> >>>> >> 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) <techlivezheng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> 2012/2/18 Heiko Baums <lists@baums-on-web.de>:
> >>>> >>> > Am Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:25:54 +0800
> >>>> >>> > schrieb 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) <techlivezheng@gmail.com>:
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> >> Due to cronie doesn't contain an /etc/crontab anymore, there are
> >>>> >>> >> losts of msgs of missing crontab as shown below in errors.log.
> >>>> >>> >>
> >>>> >>> >> > /usr/sbin/crond[1236]: (root) CAN'T OPEN (/etc/crontab): No
> >>>> >>> >> > such file or directory
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > Such an empty /etc/crontab would belong into the package cronie
> >>>> >>> > and not into the package filesystem. It's cronie specific since
> >>>> >>> > fcron, which I use, doesn't need and provide one. The
> >>>> >>> > corresponding, but also not necessary file for fcron would
> >>>> >>> > be /etc/fcrontab. And I'm not sure if such an empty /etc/crontab
> >>>> >>> > would affect fcron.
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > If cronie doesn't provide an empty /etc/crontab and doesn't run
> >>>> >>> > without it, it is a bug in cronie.
> >>>> >>> >
> >>>> >>> > Heiko
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> It runs well,but just spam the error.log and crond.log
> >>>> >>> without /etc/crontab.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Since 1.4.8 cronie doesn't need /etc/crontab... Can you show relevant
> >>>> >> piece of /var/log/crond.log?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> Leonid Isaev
> >>>> >> GnuPG key ID: 164B5A6D
> >>>> >> Key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D
> >>>>
> >>>> Still have the problem:
> >>>>
> >>>> Feb 19 06:31:01 vbox02 /usr/sbin/crond[8394]: (root) CAN'T OPEN
> >>>> (/etc/crontab): No such file or directory
> >>>> Feb 19 06:32:01 vbox02 /usr/sbin/crond[8394]: (root) CAN'T OPEN
> >>>> (/etc/crontab): No such file or directory
> >>>
> >>> This is odd... you must have something in /var/spool/cron. Otherwise
> >>> please provide more info because your problem is not easily reproducible.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Leonid Isaev
> >>> GnuPG key ID: 164B5A6D
> >>> Key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D
> >>
> >> i have the same problem. i do have a file in /var/spool/cron/, because
> >> i have some user cron jobs to do.
> >>
> >> here's some log from /var/log/crond.log
> >>
> >> Mar 18 18:04:30 pop crontab[8708]: (pop) BEGIN EDIT (pop)
> >> Mar 18 18:04:32 pop crontab[8708]: (pop) REPLACE (pop)
> >> Mar 18 18:04:32 pop crontab[8708]: (pop) END EDIT (pop)
> >> Mar 18 18:05:01 pop /usr/sbin/crond[8619]: (root) CAN'T OPEN
> >> (/etc/crontab): No such file or directory
> >> Mar 18 18:05:01 pop /usr/sbin/crond[8619]: (pop) RELOAD
> >> (/var/spool/cron/pop)
> >
> > after some further test, it seems the error only occurs after crontab -e.
> > i think this may be an upstream bug, if upstream says that
> > /etc/crontab is not indispensable.
> > anyway, showing one line of missing file in log is not a big deal. we
> > don't constantly modify our crontab.
> >
> > best regards,
>
> My problem did not occur any more after I delete /var/spoon/cron/root,
> I don't know what exactly cause the problem.

This was the cause... If you guys see this problem, why don't you report
it to cronie devs?

--
Leonid Isaev
GnuPG key ID: 164B5A6D
Key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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