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To:Azores Genealogy From:Deborah Keller47 Subject:[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosa & Frank Smith Date:Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:39:10 -0800 (PST)
 

Re: "So that is why Maria/Mary doesn't show up under Frank & Rosa
Smith's 1900 census."

Maria was already married to M.T. Freitas by 1900 so she would not
have shown up in Frank & Rosa's household.

~Deborah



On Feb 17, 5:01pm, Kim Rowe <te...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Deborah,
>
> I would like to get the name of the book please so I could purchase a copy of it.
>
> Jackpot.
>
> Yes I know your Frank Smith with the birthdate of 4/08/1855 is the same as myFrank Smith also born in 1855. So I am pretty sure they are the same Frank Smith.
>
> I can piece together that Frank Smith who married Rosa Bettencourt in 1884. Rosa Bettencourt had a child Maria/Mary who was born on Sao Jorge in 1878 before she was married to Frank Smith.I don't know the frequesa (?) or village she was born in. So that is why Maria/Mary doesn't show up under Frank & Rosa Smith's 1900 census.
>
> Maria/Mary shows up under Manuel T. Freitas 1900 Census as his wife. They were married in 1896.
>
> The information that you gave me on Maria was born in (1879) on Soa Jorge, Riberira de Areia (the
> same village by grandmother came from). Now I have a village that I can start to look under for her birth.
>
> Nowmy connectionto Rosa Smith that was married to Frank Smith.
>
> My great grandmother Mary Henriques Francisco (she also went by the last name of Martin) who lived in Butte County California is the sister of Rosa Smith. I exhausted all of the information about my great grandmother Mary Francisco. So when I looked up her obituary it listed her sister Mrs. Frank Smith of San Rafael. So that is how I got the connection of my great grandmother and Rosa Smith. So I guess Rosa Smith is my Great, Great Aunt?
>
> Frank andRosa Smith are the Father and Mother in law to Manuel T. Freitas.
>
> Thank you very much. Please also thank your mother also. You both have been a big help.
>
> Kim
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Deborah Keller47 <dlk...@gmail.com>
> To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:32 PM
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosa & Frank Smith
>
> Kim,
>
> I just had a long conversation with my mother. She read to me from a
> book that David Freitas (grandson of Manuel T. Freitas) wrote. Here's
> what I got..
>
> Francisco Sodre, 4th son of Manuel V. Sodre and Anna Josephine
> Francisco Sodre also went by the name of Frank Smith, born on San
> Jorge 4/8/1855 (different from your Frank Smith). Went to New
> Bedford, MA; was there from 1872-75, then on to Marin (Corte
> Madera).
> He married Rosa in 1884, they had 5 children: Anita, Rosa, Maye (my
> mother knew her), Inez and Josephine (no Marie [Freitas]). Frank &
> Rosa moved to Marinwood and leased a dairy. At some point he became
> the manager of Manuel T. Freitas' home ranch.
>
> Here's what I have on Maria Bettencourt.
>
> Parents were Rosa de Silviera (she had 5 brothers who used the name
> Silva) and Joao Bettencourt. Joao was first married to an English
> woman. Maria was born in (1879) on Soa Jorge, Riberira de Areia (the
> same village by grandmother came from). Rosa and Joao moved to
> Boston, had 2 additional children that subsequently died. Joao
> changed his name here to John Sylvester -- was a whaling ship captain
> (I don't know that I quite believe that). Joao died and Rosa's
> brothers moved her to Marin . She married one of her brother's
> neighbors, Francisco Vicente Naciemento Sodre.
>
> I guess it's the same Frank in both accounts (???)
>
> I'm not sure how/if this Frank is a relative of MT Freitas. Once I
> get the book from my mother I'll through it and see what else I can
> find.
>
> I need a large white board to sort this all out.
>
> So, are you a descendant of Rosa?
>
> ~Deborah
>
> On Feb 16, 6:44pm, Kim Rowe <te...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Deborah,
>
> > Frank Smith was also a dairyman.
>
> > I have come up with the following names this family has used.
>
> > Bettencourt (and any way you can spell bettencourt)
> > Freitas
> > Henriques
> > Silveria
> > Silvester
> > Sodre
>
> > Frank &Rosa Smith's daughter Mary married Manuel T. Freitas in 1896 in I think Marin County.
>
> > What information do you have onFrank & Rosa Smith or Manuel & Mary Freitas?
>
> > Kim
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Deborah Keller47 <dlk...@gmail.com>
> > To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:20 PM
> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosa & Frank Smith
>
> > Did Frank Smith EVER use his name Silva? My grandmother's uncle Frank
> > Silva (from Sao Jorge) was a dairyman. He had a daughter named Mary
> > (May) that I know for sure was my grandmother's first cousin.
>
> > ~Deborah
>
> > On Jan 3, 11:42pm, Kim Rowe <te...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > Elaine,
>
> > > My great grandmother that lived in Butte County name was Mary Henriques. Henriques was her maiden name according to my grandmothers social security application in 1936.
>
> > > Thank you,
> > > Kim
>
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: ""E" Sharp" <bellema...@gmail.com>
> > > To: azores <Azores@googlegroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:58 PM
> > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa & Frank Smith
>
> > > Kim,
>
> > > Do you have this? Is this them?
>
> > > Applying for a Passport for a trip backto from Azores to USfor embarking and landing.
>
> > > Frank Smith July 3, 1901, consulate, Sao Miguel. Travelling with wife Rosa Smith, children: Annie Smith b. 9/26/1884, Rosa Smith b. Jan 18, 1889, Mary Smith b. 8/3/1895, Agnes Smith b. 7/27/1895. All b. San Rafael CA.
>
> > > It says Frank was born in Sao Jorge Apr. 28, 1856, came to US on the Schooner Galena from Sao Jorge June 19, 1874 and he has resided in San Rafael for 26 years, 1874-1900. He was naturalized Aug. 1, 1881, Superior Court, San Rafael CA. He is a dairyman.
>
> > > They left the US Sep 12, 1900, landed in Sao Jorge Sep 24, 1900 and resided in Sao Jorge since Sep 24, 1900. He is temporarily residing in SaoMiguel for 30 days awating this Passport. Signed July 2, 1901 Consulate in Sao Miguel.
>
> > > I can send you a copy in the mail. In the meantime, I will try and find their ship's manifest on the way back and maybe to the Passportes from Sao Miguel which will give you her birth name.
>
> > > "E"
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